SOLVED PROBLEMS
Q1) Determine the thevenin’s equivalent circuit between the terminals A&B For the
circuit shown in figure 11.1 .
Answer:
First we are about to find the thevenin’s resistance. To
find the thevenin’s resistance we remove the resistance RL and open
circuit the AB terminals. Then we remove the voltage source and short circuit
it. See figure 11.2
We can easily find the thevenin’s resistance now.
Rth = (5//10 + 3)
Now we have to find the thevenin’’s voltage. For this we
remove the load resistance RL . See figure 11.3
Note that there is no current flow through 3ohms resistance
as it is open ended from point A. Hence in nodal equation we don’t have to add
the current through this resistance.
Applying nodal equation method to point c,
(V-30)/5 + (V-0)/10 = 0
V = 20V
From figure 11.3 you can see that,
VA = VC
VA = VTH
Therefore V = VTH
VTH = 20V
Q2) Find the equivalent e.m.f of the
network when viewed from terminals A&B and the equivalent resistance of the
network when looked from terminals A&B and the current through load
resistance RL . Refer figure 11.4
Answer:
Current in
the network after load resistance has been removed (figure 11.5)
I = 24/(12+3+1)
I = 1.5A.
Applying Ohm’s
law on 12 Ohm’s resistance,
Voltage
across A and B = VTH = 12 Ohms x 1.5A
Now we are
about to find the RTH
It is very
easy. Just remove and short circuit the voltage source and find the equivalent
resistance as seen from A&B terminals.
NOTE: YOU
SHOULD LEAVE THE INTERNAL RESISTANCE OF THE VOLTAGE SOURCE THOUGH YOU REMOVE
IT. SEE FIGURE 11.4.(a)
Rth = (3+1)//12 = 3 Ohms
Hence we
have find the thevenins equivalent circuit. So we can easily find the current
through load resistance. See figure 11.5.(a)
ILOAD = 18 / (3+15)
ILOAD = 1A
Q3) determine the thevenin’s equivalent circuit between the terminals A&B. you may refer figure
11.6
Answer:
This network
contains a current source. So it will be important to you to understand how to
deal with a current source in thevenin’s
theorem.
Figure 11.7
shows the circuit to find RTH. Note that two terminals between
the current source has been open circuited while the voltage source do the
opposite.
RTH
= 5 + { [ (10//10 ) + 2 ] // 3 }
RTH
= 7.1 Ω
From figure
11.8
Voltage at
point C = Vc = Vth (as there is no current through 5Ω resistor)
We have
grounded the point B to make our calculation easier.
Nodal
equation to point C
(VC
– 0)/3 + (VC-VD)/ 2 = 0
5VC –
3VD = 0 -------------------------------------------(1)
Nodal
equation to point D
(VD
- VC)/2 + VD/10 + (VD -5)/10 – 1 = 0
7VD
– 5VC = 15 ---------------------------------------(2)
By solving
1&2
Vc = 2.25V
VC
= VTH
VTH
= 2.25V
I’ll add
more examples in my next post.
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Pabindu lakshitha
B.Sc (Engineering
Undergraduate)
What happens if there is a resistance in the path where current source is located?
ReplyDeletein a current source, internal resistance is very high (infinite). so though we connect a resistance series with current source, it won't do a considerable change to the internal resistance of the current source.therefore we don't get that resistance in to our account.
Deletefollowing link will direct you to the post about current sources.
http://eefundamentals.blogspot.com/2012/08/direct-current-5-voltage-current-sources.html
thank you.
In a current source the internal resistance is parallel to the current source not in series.
DeleteThe parallel resistance ideally must be infinite.
So if we connect a resistor there will be a voltage drop of I x R
how about if the resistance is varied
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Delete(V-30)/5 + (V-0)/10 = 0
ReplyDeleteV = 20V
in Q1, V-30 and V-0. Would you like explain to me about this? I am not understand yet . Tq
it should be (30-V)/5+V/10 = 0'
Deleteif so, v = 60.
can it happen?
By nodal analysis...
Deletein the place of RL if there is a voltage is that Voc?
ReplyDeleteyes
Deletehow to choose R1,R2,R3
ReplyDeleteas your wish there is no important what you are give name resistance
Deleteas your wish there is no important what you are give name resistance in the circuit importance is the which resistor are in series or parallal ok
Deleteif resistance varies through in path of current how then we compare there.
ReplyDeleteQuite helpful....bt plz post some more solved problems based on circuit having current depending voltage source
ReplyDeleteIs the Vth value in 3rd question correct?? because i'm getting 0.75
ReplyDeleteI am getting same Vth=2.25volt
Deletefor do that problem just do like this
Delete10/10+5*32
then we will get vth value
wrong but the vth value is 11.25
Deletein Q 2) HOW thevinins voltage is calculated??????
ReplyDeletehow we solve when 10ohm and 3 ohm resistor are ground directliy plz reply
ReplyDeleteI didn't get how you wrote the equation at nodal D in 3 problem while finding out Voc
ReplyDeleteIf a battery is connect near to point B (in series)??? What will happen???
ReplyDeleteIs Vth value changes????
i, understand topic easily but, i have
ReplyDeleteA small doubt, in finding the vth only
A method of nodal is done or not
And sent some more problems with examples
i, understand topic easily but, i have
ReplyDeleteA small doubt, in finding the vth only
A method of nodal is done or not
And sent some more problems with examples
in your next post please solve using kirchoffs law
ReplyDelete0-vc/3 + Vc-Vd/2 = 0
ReplyDeleteIs the correct equation no. 1 !
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ReplyDeleteif there is no 10 ohm resistor in figure 11.6 then what are the two equation for solving Vth? can you please help me?
ReplyDeleteWish you are mentioning the 10 ohm resistor at point D in parallel with the current source.
Delete(VC – 0)/3 + (VC-5)/ 12 = 0
Solve this an find Vc.
Then
(VD - VC)/2 + (VD -5)/10 – 1 = 0
Find Vd.
You must re calculate Rth without 10 Ohms resistor.
what if in question 3 I add a voltage source in series with 5 ohm resistor which was neglected in calculating the Vth . Will the voltage source be neglected too and Vc=Va hold true?
ReplyDeleteUsing Thevenin’s theorem, what is the load
ReplyDeletecurrent in Fig. 1-9a for the following values of RL: 2 kV, 6 kV, and 18 kV?
If you really want to appreciate the power of Thevenin’s theorem, try
calculating the foregoing currents using the original circuit of Fig. 1-9a and any
other method.
Rth=6kohm
24v
PAKISTAN is great
ReplyDeleteThank you for selecting the best forum to say it
DeleteWhy ideal current is subtracted in Q3?
ReplyDeleteWhy ideal current is subtracted in Q3?
ReplyDeleteThis has really been helpful. Please, what if the circuit only has a current source
ReplyDeleteSir please solve the last sum in mesh analysis also
ReplyDeleteSir please solve the last sum in mesh analysis also
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ReplyDelete(V-30)/5 + (V-0)/10 = 0
ReplyDeleteV = 20V [why is it (+), so does that mean both current enters the node? and (v/10) is a current that's from the ground??]
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DeleteHellow Hans Lim,
DeleteIt seems you must study nodal equation method. Please follow below link which will lead you to my post on nodal equation method.
Take 30 mins and study this post. It will solve all your problems.
https://eefundamentals.blogspot.com/2012/08/network-analysis-3.html
Thank you.
Pabindu Gamage.
B.Sc Eng (Hons)
also from what i learned its higher potential to lower potential, (30-v)/5 :/ cauuse there would probably be a voltage drop. idk i wnna clear things up
ReplyDeleteHellow Hans Lim,
DeleteIt seems you must study nodal equation method. Please follow below link which will lead you to my post on nodal equation method.
Take 30 mins and study this post. It will solve all your problems.
https://eefundamentals.blogspot.com/2012/08/network-analysis-3.html
Thank you.
Pabindu Gamage.
B.Sc Eng (Hons)
send more problems with dependent sources
ReplyDeletehow can we actually know where to use nodal analysis method?
ReplyDeletewe can also use the Kirchoff's laws to find Vth Rth right. So basically where exactly we can use nodal analysis method?
Why you minus by on the Vd nodal analysis
ReplyDeleteThanks for good examples
ReplyDeleteThese helped me to understand better